EMC

Europe/Rome
Claudia Cecchi (PG), Frank Porter (Caltech)
Description
EMC
BaBar radiation hardness - David Doll
Forward baseline for TDR discussion
Minutes of 120328 EMC meeting with the forward advisory committee Indico agenda page at: http://agenda.infn.it/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=4906 1) Discussion of forward technologies Slides at: http://agenda.infn.it/getFile.py/access?resId=0&materialId=0&confId=4906 Discussion of x5 criterion was inconclusive, with both the view that x1-2 is appropriate, and the view that we should stick with x5. For now, we hope that problem will go away with the work being done on the shielding. We should know the answer to this beginning in about 3 weeks. We may be able to make progress on clustering as well. Skepticism expressed concerning pure CsI radiation hardness; needs work. Pure CsI vendors are Kharkov and Saint Gobain; maybe the Chinese could be interested. [fcp note: A paper on studies of the rad hardness of pure CsI from Kharkov for Belle may be found at: http://www.inp.nsk.su/activity/preprints/files/2007_027.pdf ] Concerning the BaBar CsI(Tl) radiation hardness, there is quite a bit of data. BaBar did a 16-crystal array test of the effects of radiation. [fcp note: SLAC-PUB-10352 describes this test; possibly there are other documents as well(?) Measurements on the acutal BaBar crystals are reported in: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/cgi-wrap/getdoc/slac-pub-10169.pdf I have uploaded a presentation from David Doll, looking at the full-life history, to the Indico agenda page: http://agenda.infn.it/getFile.py/access?resId=0&materialId=1&confId=4906 David Hitlin's slides summarizing these results are in the Orsay 2009 meeting agenda: http://agenda.infn.it/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=959 (See Parallel II - EMC session) ] Much discussion on the question of whether the full LYSO endcap was a defensible baseline for the TDR even if the background issues were mitigated. The issue is the bleak funding picture and whether the proposal would be DOA in a review. Claudia and Frank took action item to speak with Francesco and Blair. There was agreement that we could drop PWO and BGO from further consideration for the TDR baseline We should have news on the effect of removing the 8 MeV cut on photons in fastsim in around a week. 2) AOB Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday (not Wednesday), April 10 1730/0930. Since this is a holiday period in Italy, please let Claudia and I know if this poses problems.
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